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Peter Booth

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    Firebird
  1. Class Development

    Now in my mid seventies and having owned and raced my Sonata for 25 years I find it increasingly difficult to get crew and whilst I am reasonably happy to take new crew out and training them up I still find it difficult at times to get 4 of a crew and when I do have 4 there is usually a combined crew age approaching 250 or over. I rather doubt that I will ever do a regatta again unless it was a single day event. I also want a fairly simple rig e.g. furling genoa as I would like to do more cruising and often single handed so anything that makes short handed sailing easier I would agree to. The numbers racing on the Clyde East Patch have been falling away and we turn a blind eye to boats sailing with a crew of 2 and on one occasion a furling genoa but it would be nice for them to be legal even if it is only a local class rule to get more boats involved in racing. I do realise that these suggested changes are only due to my personal situation and we are really looking at getting more young people into racing but then the Sonata is probably not the favourite boat for young people today. Peter Booth Firebird GBR 8717N
  2. An Important Class Message

    Hi Chris, Thank you for taking on the chair again. You have made a lot of very valid comments as have the 2 people who have responded. Regarding the class membership charges I think if you pay by standing order/ direct debit the cost should be cheaper say £15 otherwise it should be whatever the committee decide. Regarding racing I think that lifting keel boats and furling genoas should be permitted to race in class as a large number of the cruising boats have a furling genoa and it might encourage them to come out racing. I really don't know if lifting keels have any advantage but rather doubt it so it is really just getting extra boats on the water. I also think that only having 2 of a crew should be allowed as crewing is becoming a problem and there is rarely any benefit in being 2 up. Good luck Peter Booth Firebird
  3. Hello, Hello, is anybody out there?

    Hi Chris, good to see you back taking an active part in Sonata activities. In the west of Scotland we have a Facebook page called West coast snottas as the national Sonata web site wasn't getting much response as you are now finding. I will highlight your activity on Facebook to see if that promotes the necessary response. Regards Peter Booth
  4. shroud

    Hi Joachim, as you have described take one nut off and simply withdraw the bolt, once you have got the bolt a little way out you will be able to see if there is a sleeve on the bolt or not. If there is then get hold of the sleeve as well so that you pull that out along with the bolt the shrouds and forestay will then be able to withdrawn from the mast. It really is a simple operation as I am sure you will see. Peter
  5. shroud

    Hello Joachim, the IYE masts were the original masts on the Sonata and the eyes on the top end of the shrouds and forestry is a soft eye i.e. it has no inner eyelet to protect it from wearing unlike the bottom end which is a hard eye. This is because the bolt is too large to pass through a hard eye. The bolt may have a sleeve on it but also might not it just depended on how early the boat was built. This bolt slides through the eyes on the 3 rigging wires. I find that the eye on the forestay wears very quickly and check them all every year but usually the forestay requires replacing every 3 to 4 years whereas the shrouds because they are always tight only require replacing every 10 years. It is the same arrangement for the lower shrouds as well. The wire is 19 strand 4mm and should be able to be made up by any organisation that makes rigging if you provide them with accurate lengths. In Britain they can be obtained on line from the likes of Jimmy Green Marine and may others.
  6. IYE Mast Foot

    Hi Alan, Many years ago I replaced the mast foot on my Sonata IYE mast. I managed to get a mast foot from I think it was a Procter mast and initially it would not fit into the bottom of the IYE mast but using a power file I ground out the obstructing part and then bolted the the foot right through. I also had to replace the deck shoe to match the new foot and grind slots in the mast for the halyards to come out and run down to the blocks on the new mast foot. This arrangement is still working. Good luck Peter Booth
  7. Scottish series

    This year saw the return of the Sonata as the largest one design fleet at Tarbert with 11 boats and many congratulations go to Murray Caldwell and crew in Red Hot Poker for not only winning the class but also picking up the trophy for the best overall performance. They didn't quite have things all their own way though as Mark Bradshaw's return to the Sonata this year after more years than I wish to think about was also successful sailing Mostly Harmless they finished equal on points with Murray and only placed second on countback. Not far behind them for a well deserved third place was Mark Taylor sailing Saraband. Strangely enough these were the first 3 boats to enter as well, I wonder if there could be anything in that? Let's hope that this continued success of the class continues next year and in 2 years time when the class will be 40 years young.
  8. Mast Steps

    Hi Colin, The aft face of the mast should be level with the cap (upper) shroud base ie that is approx 2745 mm from aft face of anchor chain bow fairlead (nominal for info only). I think when I fitted a new mast foot many years ago which required new holes to be drilled I filled the old holes with a marine filler. The spreaders should not be left free to swing back and forward make sure they are each fastened with 2 bolts so the cannot swing and the spreader tips if possible should be 30mm in front of aft face of mast. This should stiffen up the mast. Hope this helps. Peter
  9. A few questions

    Hi Dan, Murray has answered most of your questions but I would like to add the following. In the early days I think most of the Sonatas were launched from their cradles although i would imagine that it would have to be in deep water to get the keel clear of the cradle otherwise it is a very narrow slot at the rear of the cradle to get the keel through. As Murray has pointed out he launches from the trailer at Cove but his tariler is designed such that it can be launched straight off. There is a boat at Helensburgh ( Red Hot Poker) which in the past has an excellent racing record but it has been neglected a bit in recent years but it is on a good trailer and has a new mast and rigging. It is not advertised anywhere but if you wish the owners details I can pass them to you. Regards Peter
  10. Rule Changes - Conclusion

    Sorry all,I have reread the rules and the only mandatory sails are Main and Genoa No1.
  11. Rule Changes - Conclusion

    Mark I would agree with that as in 20 years I have never used the storm jib and never spoken to anyone who has and you should definitely be sailing tonight as it might be quite nice.
  12. Rule Changes - Conclusion

    Mark, I don't know if anyone could argue that a second bucket wasn't a chemical toilet especially if it had a seat and was labelled as such but I think most boats now have a portaloo although as you say it is a hanging offence to use it. Regarding the forepeak D3 b1 is what it says but it doesn't have to be lead so you could get something else like gold in your case. For EP racing there are 2 rules that we wave although this is not written down anywhere but is what I was told 20 years ago when I started. One is regarding what sails you carry - you must carry the minimum ie main, no1 genoa, no2 genoa, storm jib and spinnaker but you can carry any other sails you wish but not use them during a race. The other was the no of crew - we don't insist on having 3-5 as occasionally people only have 2 of a crew but I don't recall anyone having in excess of 5. This is because we don't wish to preclude anyone from racing because they are short of crew. Remember we are the friendly class and like to help one another when possible.
  13. Hello all, I shouldn't be on here this morning but DRB mooring boat is broke so I am not out doing moorings today. Good news is CCC have replied saying that if we can get 8 entries there will be a class start if less than eight but depending on other classes we may have to start with another class but will have seperate Sonata results. They are also happy for us to have it as the Scottish Sonata Championships. If you have never done this event but think you might like to I can tell you that it is great sailing and a very enjoyable social event in a beautiful part of the world so it is well worth taking the extra effort to get there. For further information please visit the CCC web site under Scottish Series.
  14. NHC racing RYA Perfomance System

    Thanks for that Mark - will see what we can do for you.
  15. NHC racing RYA Perfomance System

    Hi Mark, We should use every tool that is avaiable to us to get more boats out competing. In the Sonata class I believe we buy Sonatas to compete against as similar a boat as possible and sail one design but we should not ignore the interest of other owners who want to know that they are improving. To that end I think the class is very good and friendly at helping others to improve. On the East Patch we are going to be running the Echo (Irish) system alongside our normal results this year but it will only be for the interest of those that wish to use it and prizes will not be given. I think the main purpose of the NHC system is to try to get more cruiser racing from those boats which are not racing now and tend to be the more cruisey type of boat and is more of interest to the South coast and not the Clyde/West of Scotland which has a good CYCA handicap system running in conjuction with IRC but we should be prepared to adopt and advance anything which gets those 'bums on the water' as you say. Peter
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